Some QOL Suggestions

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After using Avogadro for many months, and quite a long amount of time in the past few days (if there was a tracker of how many hours I spent using it, I’d be in the hundreds by now), I have some QOL suggestions for the development folks. I am very open to feedback on these, and I know for a fact most of them are just my own personal preferences so I figure there might be a few who disagree. Regardless, here are some thoughts I have:

  1. Create some hotkeys for various menu options
    a) I usually need to switch quickly between several tools, i.e. the build tool, view tool, manipulation tool, and selection tool, and having to click up at the top every time can get a bit tedious
  2. The addition of some shortcuts to various commonly used things would be great!
    a) I often need to visualize molecular orbitals, and having to work through the analysis menu can be annoying when I am working on a lot of molecules. A shortcut for generating the HOMO or LUMO would be super nice to have!
    b) I am positive it would be challenging, but the ability to create custom shortcuts would be a complete game changer for my workflow with A2, and I may look into designing that myself as a plugin if I ever find time away from my research…
    c) If this is too much work for what it is worth, I would also not mind having the default molecular orbital in the surfaces menu be the HOMO instead of the LUMO, just a little nitpick there though.
  3. The input generators are super nice, although I find myself often needing to manually edit the inputs after A2 makes them, so a way to add a template input that can be manually set would be great
    a) I use ORCA for basically every serious calculation, and my method stays the same every time, optimize with wB97X-D3BJ/ma-def2-TZVP, and then recalculate energies with DLPNO-CCSD(T)/aug-cc-pVTZ. I have a standard input block that I copy and paste into my inputs, but if A2 already had that, I would be able to save a lot of time!
  4. Displaying molecule information when reading in from a file!
    a) Very often I scroll through huge output files to find, on average, 3 numbers: single point energy, HOMO energy, and LUMO energy. I wrote a program that does some of that automatically, but often I find myself jumping between A2 and output files to look at the energies of a molecule. Having a small script that just pulls those values out of the output file and puts them in, for instance, the top left corner of the display box would be super helpful.
  5. When I am splitting my screen (split horizontal and split vertical in the top right), my view settings aren’t retained. My projection goes from orthographic to perspective, it re-enables ambient occlusion, and the background is transparent. Having the new screen just retain the properties of the previous one would save folks a bunch of time having to fiddle around with the settings again.

That’s most of what I have been thinking recently, though I have no doubt that there are other folks with other ideas. If anyone has feedback just let me know!

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First off, suggestions are always very welcome!

Type Control-1 / 2 / 3, etc. (or Command-1 / 2 / 3 on Mac)

I think the main request there (from multiple users) is “bring back the orbital window” so you can just click on an orbital. :slight_smile:

Hmm. Actually, at the moment, plugins can’t define shortcuts, but that seems like a great idea.

We’re always welcome to suggestions about keyboard shortcuts … please suggest any that you like.

Hmm. Interesting idea. Let me think about that a bit. Part of that is saving your choices from last use, which needs to come back. But part of it sounds like saving a input template that just gets updated with new coordinates, e.g., something like GitHub - geem-lab/pnictogen: ⚛️ A Python library and a command-line tool that creates input files for computational chemistry packages

In the meantime, know that most of the input generators are just Python scripts, so you can go find orca.py and edit, e.g.

Sounds like you want to look at https://cclib.github.io - it’s pretty quick to write a script to grab these kinds of data, e.g.

import cclib

filename = "logfile.out"
data = cclib.io.ccread(filename)
print("final energy", data.scfenergies[-1])
homo = data.homos[0]
print("HOMO energy", data.moenergies[0][homo])
print("LUMO energy", data.moenergies[0][homo +1])

On the Avogadro2 side, the main task is to expand the “molecular properties” window to include additional properties like this (e.g., into a small table).

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Excellent stuff, I had no idea using ctrl+number would switch the menus! I took the liberty of updating the orca.py file in A2, made my own template that is just hard-coded into the python script.

I think that I might want to modify that script a bit further to be able to save a text file with custom extensions, e.g. a user could select an option that says “Save Template” and it would use the options they had selected to create a file that could be read over and over. Pretty sure I can get that done on my end, and if things seem to work out well I’ll put something on the github (as soon as I remember to check out the link you had given me for contributing guidelines).

I do agree with the other users that the orbital window should come back, not sure how that works but I am confident that at some point you’ll get it done, or I’ll get an itch to learn C++ and do it myself. Either way, it’ll eventually get done.

I have been writing my own script to parse ORCA outputs as a way to teach myself some more python, but it is interesting that the code needed to do that is already part of cclib, that would make implementing it into A2 much easier I feel. I think that expanding the molecular properties window might be something that I try to accomplish myself, depending on how hard it is to learn the requisite C++.

From what I can tell, it seems like all I’d have to do is check the part of the A2 libs that create that window, and then use cclib (not sure how all that works, but I am sure I will figure it out) to extract the requisite data from the output file. In my mind all I would want to include there is some stuff like the final single point energy, the HOMO and LUMO energies, and perhaps implement something that could search for thermodynamic values and pull those.

I’ll be checking that out soon, but for now I get to turn my old desktop into a server that I can use to run ORCA calculations remotely. Yay Linux!

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There’s a bit of Qt to create a scrollable table, but I’ll create a branch … and then you can feel free to add some more properties.

At the moment, there’s a cclib plugin for Avogadro2 but also a separate C++ implementation. So there may need to be some help here eventually (e.g., to get all the properties you might want):

Yes, this has been on my mind for a while. The “Save Template” is pretty easy. The question on my mind is how the UI works once you save the template. Does the Input Generator dialog default to the template? Does it ignore the template once you start changing options? etc.

Basically, if we can figure out how the feature should work, it won’t be too hard to do.