#1

Here are some of the questions for mentoring organizations. I would hope that KDE and/or VTK/Kitware could vouch for us as an organization?

In addition to anything else your organization would like to submit a proposal, Google will be asking (at least) the following questions as part of the proposal process:

• Describe your organization.
• Why is your organization applying to participate in Google Summer of Code 2015? What do you hope to gain by participating?
• Has your organization participated in past Google Summer of Codes? (yes/no)
• If your organization has not previously participated in Google Summer of Code, have you applied in the past? If so, for what year(s)?
• What is the URL for your Ideas list? This is the most important part of your proposal. Please make sure we can access it and it is complete when you submit this proposal. “Placeholder” or inaccessible ideas pages will be grounds for an automatic rejection for participation in Google Summer of Code2015.
• What is the main development mailing list for your organization?
• What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
• What criteria did you use to select the mentors? Please be as specific as possible.
• What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students? Please be as specific as possible.
• What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors? Please be as specific as possible.
• What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your project's community before, during and after the program?
• Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here.
• Are you an established or larger organization who would like to vouch for a new organization applying this year? If so, please list their name(s) here.
• What will you do to encourage that your accepted students stick with the project afterGoogle Summer of Code concludes?

#2

No, it’s not even spring yet. (Although it has been very warm here in
Pittsburgh.)

But it’s close to time for Google Summer of Code. Over the last few
years, we have been reasonably successful with chemistry projects
through other mentoring organizations (particularly KDE).

http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Summer_of_Code/2009/Ideas

I do think we should try to get Blue Obelisk as a mentoring
organization. Ideas?

Cheers,
-Geoff

#3

The deadline for applying to be a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code is fast approaching.

I’m not sure precisely where to hang our hat (e.g., Avogadro alone, general open-source chemistry like Blue Obelisk, or through another group like the University of Pittsburgh) but I’d really like to see Avogadro apply and get a student or three funded again.

So I’m curious for general ideas / brainstorming, and people who might be willing to serve as mentors.

Thanks,
-Geoff

Prof. Geoffrey Hutchison
Department of Chemistry
University of Pittsburgh
tel: (412) 648-0492
email: [email protected]
web: http://hutchison.chem.pitt.edu/

#4

On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:53:50AM -0500, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote:

Summer of Code is fast approaching.

:-/

I’m not sure precisely where to hang our hat (e.g., Avogadro alone,
general open-source chemistry like Blue Obelisk, or through another
group like the University of Pittsburgh) but I’d really like to see
Avogadro apply and get a student or three funded again.

Personally, I’d like to see more interoperability between the
open-source chemistry apps, including avogadro, openbabel and cclib
growing support for open source quantum chemistry packages like PSI4,
and I’d probably be willing to mentor. However, I did think that Blue
Obelisk might be the better umbrella organization for that. In general,
if there is enough good proposals etc. I’d say Blue Obelisk might have
a better shot at being accepted as Avogadro alone. On the other hand,
if nobody else is pushing this…

Michael

#5

Personally, I’d like to see more interoperability between the
open-source chemistry apps, including avogadro, openbabel and cclib

Indeed, I think one big push is for Avogadro v2 to use cclib to read QM file formats (e.g., MO coefficients, basis set, etc.) rather than implementing them all in C++.

As for Open Babel and cclib, I think some of that is simply a matter of not repeating the wheel - i.e., leaving QM-specific data in cclib, but certainly a lot more is important here.

I think these are good ideas. I’ll go create a wiki page somewhere to start storing some of them.

-Geoff

P.S. I don’t think it would be hard for Avogadro as a whole to get approved, since we’ve had 3 students working on Avogadro-related code in previous years. I do agree that an umbrella organization might be helpful.

#6

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Michael Banck [email protected] wrote:

On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:53:50AM -0500, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote:

Summer of Code is fast approaching.

I’m not sure precisely where to hang our hat (e.g., Avogadro alone,
general open-source chemistry like Blue Obelisk, or through another
group like the University of Pittsburgh) but I’d really like to see
Avogadro apply and get a student or three funded again.

Personally, I’d like to see more interoperability between the
open-source chemistry apps, including avogadro, openbabel and cclib
growing support for open source quantum chemistry packages like PSI4,
and I’d probably be willing to mentor. However, I did think that Blue
Obelisk might be the better umbrella organization for that. In general,
if there is enough good proposals etc. I’d say Blue Obelisk might have
a better shot at being accepted as Avogadro alone. On the other hand,
if nobody else is pushing this…

I would vote for Blue Obelisk, but it has been hard in previous years
to get any momentum around it. I would be interested in mentoring, it
is hard to tell what Google is looking for and so I think we would
have a shot as Avogadro or Blue Obelisk - they certainly accept a
number. We could also talk to KDE, and see about doing it in their
umbrella as we did in previous years.

Marcus

#7

I would vote for Blue Obelisk, but it has been hard in previous years
to get any momentum around it.

Well, let’s post to the Blue Obelisk list to see if other projects are interested in having projects. One concern might be the huge lack of traffic with Blue Obelisk, but it might be worth asking some Google folks about pro/con for different mentoring organizations.

Marcus, do you have any contacts in the supervisory group at Google?

Either way, I’d really like to do this for 2015, and I think pointing to previous related projects would be helpful.

-Geoff

#8

Hi guys,

I would definitely be happy to help out from the cclib side of things. I
don’t think I would manage the time to mentor, but could help generally
organize things as well. I have been trying to make some time to get into
Avogadro and openbabel, and this would be a good pretext.

I have participated in GSOC in the past (as a student), in a project
unrelated to chemistry.

Cheers,
Karol

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison <
[email protected]> wrote:

Here are some of the questions for mentoring organizations. I would hope
that KDE and/or VTK/Kitware could vouch for us as an organization?

In addition to anything else your organization would like to submit a
proposal, Google will be asking (at least) the following questions as part
of the proposal process:

    • Describe your organization.


Summer of Code 2015? What do you hope to gain by participating?
Codes? (yes/no)
Summer of Code, have you applied in the past? If so, for what year(s)?
• What Open Source Initiative approved license(s) does your
project use?
• What is the URL for your Ideas list? This is the most important
part of your proposal. Please make sure we can access it and it is complete
when you submit this proposal. “Placeholder” or inaccessible ideas pages
will be grounds for an automatic rejection for participation in Google
Summer of Code2015.
• What is the main development mailing list for your organization?
• What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
• What criteria did you use to select the mentors? Please be as
specific as possible.
be as specific as possible.
be as specific as possible.
• What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with
your project’s community before, during and after the program?
• Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other
organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here.
• Are you an established or larger organization who would like to
vouch for a new organization applying this year? If so, please list their
name(s) here.
• What will you do to encourage that your accepted students stick
with the project afterGoogle Summer of Code concludes?

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#9

Hi,

To update the list, we were not selected this year. I got feedback
from Google which was very positive and encouraged us to apply again
next year. They only accepted 137 organizations this year (down from a
high of 190 last year). We had some great ideas, and we will continue
to work on links with other open source chemistry projects to put
together an even stronger proposal next year.

Thanks for everyone’s interest, disappointed we didn’t make it this
year but encouraged to try again next year. Working on some patches
and hopefully a release soon…more threads on that soon.

Marcus

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Karol Langner [email protected] wrote:

Hi guys,

I would definitely be happy to help out from the cclib side of things. I
don’t think I would manage the time to mentor, but could help generally
organize things as well. I have been trying to make some time to get into
Avogadro and openbabel, and this would be a good pretext.

I have participated in GSOC in the past (as a student), in a project
unrelated to chemistry.

Cheers,
Karol

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison
[email protected] wrote:

Here are some of the questions for mentoring organizations. I would hope
that KDE and/or VTK/Kitware could vouch for us as an organization?

In addition to anything else your organization would like to submit a
proposal, Google will be asking (at least) the following questions as part
of the proposal process:

    • Describe your organization.


Summer of Code 2015? What do you hope to gain by participating?
Codes? (yes/no)
Summer of Code, have you applied in the past? If so, for what year(s)?
• What Open Source Initiative approved license(s) does your
project use?
• What is the URL for your Ideas list? This is the most important
part of your proposal. Please make sure we can access it and it is complete
when you submit this proposal. “Placeholder” or inaccessible ideas pages
will be grounds for an automatic rejection for participation in Google
Summer of Code2015.
• What is the main development mailing list for your organization?
• What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
• What criteria did you use to select the mentors? Please be as
specific as possible.
be as specific as possible.
be as specific as possible.
• What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with
your project’s community before, during and after the program?
• Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other
organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here.
• Are you an established or larger organization who would like to
vouch for a new organization applying this year? If so, please list their
name(s) here.
• What will you do to encourage that your accepted students stick
with the project afterGoogle Summer of Code concludes?

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