Users feedback

Moin folks.

A student of mine tested Avogadro 0.6.1 last week. Here is his feedback!
Please CC him for all replies.

Carsten

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after testing avogadro a bit from a students (teacher trainee) point of view,
there are many nice application possibilities:

  •   initiation in atomic/ molecular models
    
  •   illustrastion of complex molecules (also for biology)
    
  •   enlarging upon crystallography
    
  •   because of the different engines (HBond, Wireframe etc.) a view as 
    

supplement to wooden or plastic models is possible

  •   the scientific point of view operated through the different properties 
    

for all disciplines of chemistry (mainly relaiting to physical chemistry)

all in all avogadro is a tool that mustn’t dodge behind comparable programs.
Whether student or teacher could use it according to application
possibilities and their abilities in computer science.

Room for improvement:

  •   up to now it hasn’t succeeded that I could “export the graphics” 
    

although you find it at “file”

  •   it bothers me that the program crashes all too frequend
    
  •   although English is the language of science, a german version would be 
    

nice

Am Dienstag, 1. April 2008 18:34:49 schrieb Carsten Niehaus:

Moin Stefan and rest:

  •   up to now it hasn’t succeeded that I could “export the graphics”
    

although you find it at “file”

It would be nice if you would describe us how you would like to use this. In
privat you told me that ChemSketch integrates itself in WinWord, that is
quite complex. Currently I am using KSnapShot to take screenshots of the
molecule and import those JPG-files in OpenOffice. Works but is perhaps
suboptimal.
So if you have good ideas just tell us.

  •   it bothers me that the program crashes all too frequend
    
  •   although English is the language of science, a german version would
    

be nice

There is a german version, perhaps it is not included in the Windows-Version?

Carsten

Hi,

On Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:34:49 Carsten Niehaus wrote:

  •   up to now it hasn’t succeeded that I could “export the graphics”
    

although you find it at “file”

My brother tested the latest windows build (0.6.1, I think) and reported the
same issue, namely, the “export graphics” entry under “File” menu was grayed
out.

  •   although English is the language of science, a german version would
    

be nice

Under *nix I’d tell you to run “LANG=de ./avogadro” to see if that loads the
german translations; I don’t know the windows equivalent for that.

Cheers,

Benoit

Hi.

I am bit late replying on this topic. Was away yesterday.

Le 1 avr. 08 à 18:40, Carsten Niehaus a écrit :

Am Dienstag, 1. April 2008 18:34:49 schrieb Carsten Niehaus:

Moin Stefan and rest:

  •   up to now it hasn’t succeeded that I could “export the  
    

graphics”
although you find it at “file”

It would be nice if you would describe us how you would like to use
this. In
privat you told me that ChemSketch integrates itself in WinWord,
that is
quite complex. Currently I am using KSnapShot to take screenshots of
the
molecule and import those JPG-files in OpenOffice. Works but is
perhaps
suboptimal.
So if you have good ideas just tell us.

If such is the intent, like Chemdraw integration into MS Office, the
task is
certainly complex. I had never tried this option till today. It works
with
standard graphics format like jpeg, tiff, bmp … It is then easy to
include
the figures into text or presentation material. A minor issue is that
empty
files are created if the format is unknown (I tried postscript).

  •   it bothers me that the program crashes all too frequend
    
  •   although English is the language of science, a german  
    

version would
be nice

There is a german version, perhaps it is not included in the Windows-
Version?

Actually, internationalization appears to no longer work, at least for
French
in MacOSX 10.5.

Regards

											Louis

If such is the intent, like Chemdraw integration into MS Office, the
task is certainly complex. I had never tried this option till today.
It works
with standard graphics format like jpeg, tiff, bmp

Yes, also when you “Copy”, a graphic is created for pasting into
*Office programs. I wrote this feature because it makes it easy for me
to insert graphics into presentations.

I have looked at both:

  • Integration with ChemDraw or other programs (i.e., copy from
    ChemDraw into Avogadro) – possible, but takes some work. Probably
    worth doing in version 1.1.
  • Embedded chemical data into graphics (i.e., paste into Word, later
    on, copy graphic, paste into Avogadro for an editable structure). Not
    too difficult. I’m having some trouble with Open Babel, or this would
    be ready now.

empty files are created if the format is unknown (I tried postscript).

I think we need to have separate menu items for "Export Graphics,“
with a little pop-up menu to suggest formats and “Export POV-Ray” and
"Export PostScript.”

Actually, internationalization appears to no longer work, at least
for French in MacOSX 10.5.

Mac is a little strange. I’ve found that you need to set the locale
via the “Date and Time” panel. I am investigating other approaches.
Suggestions are most welcome.

Cheers,
-Geoff