Next Release

Marcus suggested that we make a new (0.8) release on Friday.

I’d like to slightly revise that. I think we should freeze the code
and make a release branch for 0.8. I think we should then take a few
days (e.g. until Monday, May 19th or Tues., May 20th) to get the Mac,
Windows, and other binaries ready, and have some good tutorials and
documentation.

I’d like to push out an announcement to a few (new) big mailing lists
and websites. So I’d like to make sure we have the wiki and tutorials
ready for some new users.

Sound good?
-Geoff

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison geoffh+@pitt.edu wrote:

Marcus suggested that we make a new (0.8) release on Friday.

I’d like to slightly revise that. I think we should freeze the code and make
a release branch for 0.8. I think we should then take a few days (e.g. until
Monday, May 19th or Tues., May 20th) to get the Mac, Windows, and other
binaries ready, and have some good tutorials and documentation.

I’d like to push out an announcement to a few (new) big mailing lists and
websites. So I’d like to make sure we have the wiki and tutorials ready for
some new users.

Sounds cool. Could we have a wiki page or something that lists the
documentation, tutorial, and wiki updates that need to be done?

-Jordan Mantha

Just created http://avogadro.openmolecules.net/wiki/Tutorials :slight_smile:

19 or 20 May sounds good. Who will do the windows build? I haven’t
build OB/avogadro on windows since the 0.6 release but all the
development tools are still installed if needed.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Jordan Mantha jordan.mantha@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison geoffh+@pitt.edu wrote:

Marcus suggested that we make a new (0.8) release on Friday.

I’d like to slightly revise that. I think we should freeze the code and make
a release branch for 0.8. I think we should then take a few days (e.g. until
Monday, May 19th or Tues., May 20th) to get the Mac, Windows, and other
binaries ready, and have some good tutorials and documentation.

I’d like to push out an announcement to a few (new) big mailing lists and
websites. So I’d like to make sure we have the wiki and tutorials ready for
some new users.

Sounds cool. Could we have a wiki page or something that lists the
documentation, tutorial, and wiki updates that need to be done?

-Jordan Mantha


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On May 13, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Tim Vandermeersch wrote:

Just created http://avogadro.openmolecules.net/wiki/Tutorials :slight_smile:

Sounds cool. Could we have a wiki page or something that lists the
documentation, tutorial, and wiki updates that need to be done?

Actually, we probably want to create a category or two. For example:

Tutorial:Building
Tutorial:AutoOptimize
Tutorial:InsertingFragments

But I’ll see if I can help come up with a list of wiki/documentation
requests. :slight_smile:

Cheers,
-Geoff

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Geoffrey Hutchison
geoff.hutchison@gmail.com wrote:

On May 13, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Tim Vandermeersch wrote:

Just created http://avogadro.openmolecules.net/wiki/Tutorials :slight_smile:

Sounds cool. Could we have a wiki page or something that lists the
documentation, tutorial, and wiki updates that need to be done?

Actually, we probably want to create a category or two. For example:

Tutorial:Building
Tutorial:AutoOptimize
Tutorial:InsertingFragments

Do you need to do something extra to create a new category? I tried
adding links like Tutorials:*, but this doesn’t seem to create the
category.

But I’ll see if I can help come up with a list of wiki/documentation
requests. :slight_smile:

Jordan and I were just brainstorming on irc for some basic tasks.
While there need to be basic tutorials, it would be good to have some
tutorials on tasks you might actually want to do :slight_smile: And do we make
references to user documentation for a per tool/extension/engine
overview?

cheers,
Tim

Moin

I’d like to slightly revise that. I think we should freeze the code and make
a release branch for 0.8. I think we should then take a few days (e.g. until
Monday, May 19th or Tues., May 20th) to get the Mac, Windows, and other
binaries ready, and have some good tutorials and documentation.

I am more than fine with that, but please don’t forget translation :wink:
We could even mention “translated into more than X languages” as some
kine of milestone…

On which beta of OpenBabel 2.2 do we depend? I think we should mention
that information in the announcement.

About “big lists”: I will announce it on kde-announce at kde.org and
blog about it.

Carsten

To create a category, you need to put the following of every page that
should belong to that category:

[[Category:Tutorials]]

This will add it to the page:

http://avogadro.openmolecules.net/wiki/Category:Tutorials

I think it should be “Tutorial” singular yes? Doesn’t matter to me
really either way.

(Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:22:36AM +0200) Tim Vandermeersch tim.vandermeersch@gmail.com:

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Geoffrey Hutchison
geoff.hutchison@gmail.com wrote:

On May 13, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Tim Vandermeersch wrote:

Just created http://avogadro.openmolecules.net/wiki/Tutorials :slight_smile:

Sounds cool. Could we have a wiki page or something that lists the
documentation, tutorial, and wiki updates that need to be done?

Actually, we probably want to create a category or two. For example:

Tutorial:Building
Tutorial:AutoOptimize
Tutorial:InsertingFragments

Do you need to do something extra to create a new category? I tried
adding links like Tutorials:*, but this doesn’t seem to create the
category.

But I’ll see if I can help come up with a list of wiki/documentation
requests. :slight_smile:

Jordan and I were just brainstorming on irc for some basic tasks.
While there need to be basic tutorials, it would be good to have some
tutorials on tasks you might actually want to do :slight_smile: And do we make
references to user documentation for a per tool/extension/engine
overview?

cheers,
Tim


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I may be able to push the code for unique IDs by that time and I’d
really like to see that happen to eliminate a lot of the undo/redo bugs,
or at least disable undo/redo for this release…

(Tue, May 13, 2008 at 06:40:37PM -0400) Geoffrey Hutchison geoffh+@pitt.edu:

Marcus suggested that we make a new (0.8) release on Friday.

I’d like to slightly revise that. I think we should freeze the code
and make a release branch for 0.8. I think we should then take a few
days (e.g. until Monday, May 19th or Tues., May 20th) to get the Mac,
Windows, and other binaries ready, and have some good tutorials and
documentation.

I’d like to push out an announcement to a few (new) big mailing lists
and websites. So I’d like to make sure we have the wiki and tutorials
ready for some new users.

Sound good?
-Geoff


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On May 14, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Donald Ephraim Curtis wrote:

I may be able to push the code for unique IDs by that time and I’d
really like to see that happen to eliminate a lot of the undo/redo
bugs,
or at least disable undo/redo for this release…

If you and/or Marcus can take care of that, it would be great.

However, my vote is not to disable undo/redo. For one, it’s a big
advantage of Avogadro over other programs. For another, we’re much
better in 0.8 than 0.6.x at undo/redo. So we should at least ship
something.

My policy with Open Babel is that eventually you need to ship 2.2 and
assume you’ll have bugs to fix for 2.2.x, but if you keep waiting for
something to be “perfect,” you’ll never release.

Just my $0.02,
-Geoff

On which beta of OpenBabel 2.2 do we depend? I think we should mention
that information in the announcement.

2.2.0b5, which will be packaged tomorrow.

Cheers,
-Geoff

Geoff,

Can you wait til Friday to package this? I am working on the unique ID
stuff and I had to make GetAtom and GetBond const functions (which they
should be although this is a fine line since they return internal
pointers).


Donald

(Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:54:03AM -0400) Geoffrey Hutchison geoffh+@pitt.edu:

On which beta of OpenBabel 2.2 do we depend? I think we should mention
that information in the announcement.

2.2.0b5, which will be packaged tomorrow.

Cheers,
-Geoff


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